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=Please use preview=
=ACE Pages=
When you edit pages, please try to use the "Show preview" button (rather than making dozens of individual edits to the same page). That way the edit log (which a lot of people use to find out what's new on the Wiki) isn't cluttered by the same page edit over and over.
Since you deleted all content of the ACE pages (even for the main page), I assume you don't even want to keep an overview page here, and we can also remove any uploaded images? --[[User:Kronzky|Kronzky]] 23:04, 4 January 2010 (CET)
== Purges ==


Also - I understand that the page limits for mods came at an inopportune time for you guys, as a new build was just about to be released, but I hope all these additions you are doing here currently are just a temporary solution until you have found you own host.
It's your server - do whatever you wish that makes you happy.


--[[User:Kronzky|Kronzky]] 16:25, 15 December 2009 (CET)
I did not remove the documents for ACE version-1 because I'm not the primary owner. But did remove '''ALL''' content created by myself.


==preview==
I do suggest you change the preface on the main page to be more truthful. It's not a community wiki, nor does it provide
I installed and managed a number of wiki systems for LLNL during my 24+ years there as computer systems architect. Quite familiar with how it works, including the cpu/memory/disk footprint it consumes.
complete or accurate information. The gaps in documentation for ArmA and especially Arma 2 are significant with little indication of any hope that will change. Noting the admonishments on my work, I can see why so few outside of BI wish to contribute here - it's a very hostile environment.


During my work I preview '''A LOT'''.  But when this web site keeps "refreshing" the page in the middle of my work and losing my changes you are forcing me to save my work far more often than I normally would. Normally I would break the info into more pages to limit the amount of large changes, but your new rules prevented that.
--[[User:Evil Echo|Evil Echo]] 20:14, 5 January 2010 (CET)
 
I'm sorry my changes are flooding your logs. Compared to the nominal rate of change on this wiki, it must be quite a shock. But due to the deadline to finish our work here before the 4 week deadline I've had to pick up the pace of changes made.
 
Plans are well underway to move all of the ACE documentation off this site. I'll also let our user base know where to look for ACE documentation so they do not burden your system anymore.
 
--[[User:Evil Echo|Evil Echo]] 17:51, 15 December 2009 (CET)
 
:If you have that much experience with Wikis then I'm surprised you're not familiar with the concept of working off a local copy of the article.
:Copy the article into your local editor, do all the edits in there, and then paste it back into the browser, to check the preview.
:That way you don't need to submit endless minor edits, have the convenience of working in a more powerful editor, and never have to worry about Wiki failures. Everybody wins...
:--[[User:Kronzky|Kronzky]] 20:11, 15 December 2009 (CET)
 
::I was familiar with that - one reason I have backups of my wiki pages.
 
::Of course, my background would have also have lead me to adjust the web server and php settings not to refresh editing pages,
::nor log minor changes ( which are typically corrections in spelling or format, not content ). Along with using a virtual OS
::( like Solaris containers or Xen ) and fair-share scheduling to reduce the impact of multiple services running on a single machine.
 
::I'd also have had clear policies in place up front, approached a potential problem with a one-on-one dialog to help the
::user correct the issue vs issuing '''''or else''''' edicts, and taken a far more civil tone in customer relations.
 
::Right now the situation is not win-win, it's tie-lose.
 
::ACE has to uproot and move it's documentation, but we will do just fine. All you've done is cost us time.
 
::BI loses because of what the users will think of this incident and all mod developers will see this as
::a major step back from what had been perceived as close relations that mutually supported each other.
::Concidering how many players have said they bought ArmA2 just to use ACE I would have thought
::BI would recognize the benefit of each of us making the other look good.
 
::--[[User:Evil Echo|Evil Echo]] 23:54, 15 December 2009 (CET)
 
:Kronzky has been completely civil, as an independent third party reading the dialogue.  Note that the pages here do not automatically refresh for me and I suspect that's a browser issue on your end. --[[User:Jtgibson|Jtgibson]] 01:09, 16 December 2009 (CET)

Latest revision as of 19:28, 31 January 2021

ACE Pages

Since you deleted all content of the ACE pages (even for the main page), I assume you don't even want to keep an overview page here, and we can also remove any uploaded images? --Kronzky 23:04, 4 January 2010 (CET)

Purges

It's your server - do whatever you wish that makes you happy.

I did not remove the documents for ACE version-1 because I'm not the primary owner. But did remove ALL content created by myself.

I do suggest you change the preface on the main page to be more truthful. It's not a community wiki, nor does it provide complete or accurate information. The gaps in documentation for ArmA and especially Arma 2 are significant with little indication of any hope that will change. Noting the admonishments on my work, I can see why so few outside of BI wish to contribute here - it's a very hostile environment.

--Evil Echo 20:14, 5 January 2010 (CET)

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